Suicide

Living is a choice, not a responsibility.

On internet support forums, people often mention one’s family and friends, people who would typically care about the person, when one suggests or explicitly states that they are contemplating suicide. This reasoning is rather absurd — one is told to endure their suffering so that they would not cause harm to those who care about them by ending their life. It would be one thing to have a choice whether or not to have been born, but it is thrust upon a person without choice. A comical picture is painted where people are willing to keep going through immense suffering only for the sake of others, the collective effect of which produces society as we know it — a snowball effect of a “duty of life” to others.

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  1. #1 by myhypotheticaldivorce on July 7, 2010 - 7:23 pm

    i agree wholeheartedly.

    that is all.

  2. #2 by DungeonMaster on July 14, 2010 - 8:32 am

    Suicide in the internet is a subject taking lightly, and it is often used to garnish attention or affection. If one believes to have a soul suicide is an abhorrent crime. When one commits suicide he is killing the god essence within him. Anyone with the belief of a savior-god should abstain from such a crime.
    It is a morbid “comical picture” when one is superimposed the duty to live for others. It is my view that if anyone should think himself worthy of death then he should take action.

    • #3 by rambleandrant on July 14, 2010 - 1:04 pm

      We can consider naturalistic conceptions of a soul as well. I think the removal of the savior-god figure makes it a viable description and not simply an oxymoron. In that sense I would not see a reason to consider suicide wrong despite having a soul.

      I’m not quite sure what you mean by the second part (starting from, “it is morbid…”), but I’ll respond to that as well. I’ve entertained the idea that suicide ought to be the most fundamental right of man if rights should exist at all. How selfish is it to demand the endurance of suffering? Labeling suicide as wrong is to me analogous to what Alan Watts said once, that society demands that “you must play” the game of, well, society. He clarified it as saying that one is required to do something only if they do it voluntarily. Asking someone to not commit suicide is like telling them that while existence is voluntary (it is a choice, as I mentioned before), they are required to do it. What a laughable demand!

      I suppose I must add that while almost anything can be deemed voluntary, the voluntary action of, say, driving a car is minuscule in comparison to voluntary existence because living is an effort that takes the near totality of a person’s work. Also, I’ll make the controversial distinction between coercion and voluntary action as one can play with definitions and come to the conclusion that the only reason why anyone follows any rules is simply because they want to. There are, however, no laws and, thus, no form of coercion that discourages suicide because there can be no consequences (in the naturalistic sense) after one has died.

      • #4 by DungeonMaster on July 16, 2010 - 8:05 am

        “Morbid comical picture”: What I meant to convey is the depressive reality a terminal being must endure in order to keep the charade of normalcy.
        I contend that if one seeks death (self-termination) he should find it, regardless if it is right or wrong. Also, I do not believe it to be selfish to demand others to continue on existing. Since, selfishness is concern only with the self’s existence. To demand anyone to voluntarily comply with existence is unreasonable and wicked.
        In my view suicide is consequential in the naturalistic and theological sense.

  3. #5 by DungeonMaster on July 15, 2010 - 9:21 am

    “Morbid comical picture”: What I meant to convey is the depressive reality a terminal being must endure in order to keep the charade of normalcy.
    I contend that if one seeks death (self-termination) he should find it, regardless if it is right or wrong. Also, I do not believe it to be selfish to demand others to continue on existing. Since, selfishness is concern only with the self’s existence. To demand anyone to voluntarily comply is unreasonable and wicked.
    Suicide is consequential in the naturalistic and theological sense.

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